There is a big different between reaped mango ( paki hui aam) and not reaped aam ( kacchi aam) reaped mango remain always sweet but not completely reaped mango some time very sours and bitter. remember this Kabhi kabhi aam khatta bhi hota hai! In my opinion a small mistake can make big different, so I draw your attention about your mistake. These two individuals were totally different persons one was our Imam when other was just Dai same like Nasir Khusaru even he was not an Ismaili pir. Now you are changing your own words, please read above quote in this quote you ( by your self) wrote that Imam Shams al din also known as Shams Tabrizi, no brother who told you that? that is totally wrong. Our belevod Imam Shams al din also known as Shams tabrizi. RAKTHA AUR USKI BE FIZUL BEHAS KA KOI ARTH NAHI USKI GUTLI AUR CHILKE KIS JAAD SE GERE,KOI MAINE NAHI he was great dai and sufi mystic and he had written many books but he was not Ismaili Imam.ĪAM RAS KI KHUSBOO AUR ZAIKE KA MAAZA LUTOO. I am not sure who wrote the above Qasida "Dum Huma dum Ali' but I am pretty sure that Shams Tabrizi was not Ismaili imam.įor your Information :-There were three different Shams contemparary during the time of Shams Tabrizi:-ġ, Imam Shamsuddin Mohammad (s.a.) son of Imam Allauddin Mohammad(s.a.)ģ, Shams Tabrizi Murshid of Jalaluddin Rumi. I have an opportunity today call the right number fast or seek the number from via sources like shah,swami,satguru,moula etc to reach ALI.Īhmed ALI ALI boliya,peche honi hoi so hoi ree peche honi hoi so hoi ree Mordern day saying goes as ,well begun is half done and first time right. If a innocent child of 5 year in Badhakshan recites this qasida,he r she is dailling the right number Of ALI in heart all the time,sooner rather than later benovelent father has pick up the fone n answer it. I am SURE within my heart that this qasida is composed by our belevod Imam Shams al din also known as Shams tabrizi. When a imam or pirs say,it DEFINATELY has a baatIn meaning.ĭum ali,means Iam living in ALI,Hum ALI.means i am one with ALI(if said by pir) and ALI himself,if said by beautifully defines Asal mubarak me wasal and concept of Fanafiallah. This qasida is quasi ibadat to start with. If we try to interpet at tariqat level(rational sense).dum mean breath(which get silent),hum means ourselves.so we get zikr of ALI ALI,wHICH IS ZIKR OF MARIFAT. This is the flagship qasida of many for around 20 million Ismailies. Posted: Tue 6:21 pm Post subject: qaseeda an understandingĭum huma dum ALI ALI dum huma dum ALI ALI. :: View topic - qaseeda an understanding FAQ Search Memberlist Usergroups Profile